Legislature(2001 - 2002)

04/23/2001 01:15 PM House JUD

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SB 172 - COURT SYSTEM ANNUAL REPORT                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Number 1358                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ROKEBERG  announced that  the next  order of business  would                                                              
be  CS FOR  SENATE  BILL  NO. 172(FIN),  "An  Act  relating to  an                                                              
annual  report  by  the  court   system  to  the  public  and  the                                                              
legislature."                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 1382                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DAVE  DONLEY, Alaska  State Legislature,  spoke on  behalf                                                              
of  the  Senate  Finance  Committee,   sponsor  of  SB  172.    He                                                              
explained  that  SB  172  would establish  in  statute  an  annual                                                              
report  from the Alaska  Court System  (ACS).   Currently  the ACS                                                              
does an  annual report  but does so  voluntarily because  there is                                                              
no statutory  requirement.   Simply,  SB 172  will set in  statute                                                              
that there  will be a requirement  to provide an annual  report to                                                              
the legislature;  the  ACS could  have leeway  under this  bill to                                                              
continue  with the  existing report,  as long  as it provides  the                                                              
legislature  with the  specific  information detailed  in SB  172.                                                              
He noted that  some of the information  required by SB  172 is not                                                              
currently  included in  the annual  report that  the ACS  provides                                                              
voluntarily.   That  information  includes additional  information                                                              
regarding the  time it's  taking to  provide final disposition  on                                                              
cases  in  Alaska;  specific information  about  the  [status  of]                                                              
salary warrants of  judges (currently, if a judge  doesn't produce                                                              
a final  opinion within six  months, his/her salary  is withheld);                                                              
and a  reporting of travel  expenses and  per diem for  judges and                                                              
justices, similar  to what is required of legislators  and members                                                              
of the  executive branch.   He  concluded by  stating that  SB 172                                                              
has a zero fiscal note.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  DONLEY, in  response to  questions, said  that each  year                                                              
the  administration and  the legislature  prepare  reports on  all                                                              
the  salaries,   travel,  and  per   diem  for  executive   branch                                                              
personnel and legislators,  respectively.  He also  noted that the                                                              
legislature [performs]  an annual  audit of state  government, and                                                              
that  there   is  an   annual  budget   report  produced   by  the                                                              
Legislative  Finance  Division.    On  the  issue  of  withholding                                                              
salary  warrants,  he  explained  that under  existing  law,  "any                                                              
appellant  court where  there's  more than  one  member is  exempt                                                              
from the time limit  factor of the salary warrants."   All the law                                                              
requires is for  an initial decision to be made;  there is no time                                                              
limit for any final decision being made.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   KOOKESH  questioned   why  this  legislation   is                                                              
necessary  given that  the [ACS]  has  been voluntarily  providing                                                              
reports since 1961.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DONLEY  replied that  it is because  [the ACS]  could just                                                              
stop doing  so at  any time, and  because he  thinks it  is really                                                              
important  that the  public be  guaranteed this  information.   He                                                              
also noted  that SB  172 requires  information additional  to what                                                              
[the ACS] currently provides.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 1588                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KOOKESH suggested that  if the legislature  simply                                                              
asked  it  to  do so,  the  [ACS]  would  continue  providing  the                                                              
reports  and include  the additional  information  on a  voluntary                                                              
basis.    He opined  that  this  might  be  a situation  in  which                                                              
legislation is not actually needed.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DONLEY  said, "Hopefully  this is  legislation that  won't                                                              
be needed  in the future,  but it is  a safeguard to  prevent that                                                              
eventuality  from ever  happening."   With regard  to the  warrant                                                              
information, he noted  that about three or four years  ago, he had                                                              
contacted  the Alaska  Judicial Council  (AJC) and  asked why  the                                                              
warrant information  was not provided with the  analysis for judge                                                              
retention.   [The  AJC]  explained  that they  had  asked for  the                                                              
information  but  the ACS  would  not  provide  it to  them,  even                                                              
though [the  AJC] is the body  that is constitutionally  empowered                                                              
to make assessments  regarding the retention of judges.   He added                                                              
that   subsequent   to   that  conversation,   he   received   the                                                              
information from  the ACS,  whereupon he provided  it to  the AJC.                                                              
Although currently  the ACS is  providing this information  to the                                                              
AJC, he said, this  is just an example showing that  the ACS could                                                              
at anytime  - without  this legislation  - decide  not to  provide                                                              
certain information.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Number 1683                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHRIS     CHRISTENSEN,     Deputy     Administrative     Director,                                                              
Administrative  Staff,  Office  of  the  Administrative  Director,                                                              
Alaska  Court System  (ACS), clarified  that  it was  not the  ACS                                                              
that refused  to provide this information  to the AJC,  it was the                                                              
Department  of   Administration  (DOA).     The  ACS   has  always                                                              
considered  this information  a public  record.   He pointed  out,                                                              
however,  that the  ACS  receives the  information  from the  DOA;                                                              
once the  information is in the  ACS's possession, it  is provided                                                              
to anyone who makes  a public records request.   He explained that                                                              
the  [Alaska] Supreme  Court  produces an  annual  report and  has                                                              
done  so since  the  very first  year  that the  ACS  has been  in                                                              
existence;  the first  annual  report  came out  in  1960.   After                                                              
noting  that the  legislature  received  a copy  of  the "FY  2000                                                              
Annual Report"  in January,  he confirmed that  the report  is not                                                              
produced  because of  a statutory  mandate, but  rather under  the                                                              
[Alaska] Supreme  Court's constitutional  authority to  administer                                                              
the  judicial branch  of  government.   In  essence,  this is  the                                                              
[Alaska]  Supreme  Court's  annual   message  on  judicial  branch                                                              
operations.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CHRISTENSEN   noted  that  as  originally  drafted,   SB  172                                                              
instructed the  ACS to produce an  annual report and  include some                                                              
of  the information  that is  already  in the  annual report  that                                                              
[the  ACS]  provides,  and  add  other  information  that  is  not                                                              
currently  provided.   He said that  the legislature  is the  best                                                              
judge  of   what  information  it   would  consider   useful;  the                                                              
legislature  has the  authority  to instruct  the  ACS to  provide                                                              
statistical  or other  information  related  to court  operations.                                                              
Whereupon [the  ACS] will provide  the information required  by SB
172 in report form.   He pointed out that the  ACS has submitted a                                                              
zero  fiscal note.   He  mentioned  that there  are several  other                                                              
examples in  statute of  reports the  legislature requires  of the                                                              
ACS,  such  as  travel information  for  justices  of  the  Alaska                                                              
Supreme Court and for judges of the Alaska Court of Appeals.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. CHRISTENSEN noted,  however, that the document  that [the ACS]                                                              
has  identified for  over 40  years as  its annual  report is  the                                                              
[Alaska] Supreme  Court's message;  this is  akin to reports  that                                                              
"you"  as  individual  legislators  send  to  Alaskans  describing                                                              
"your"  operations here  in Juneau.   And  much as  "you" are  the                                                              
final authority  of what goes into  "your" reports, he  said, [the                                                              
ACS]  believes  that  the  [Alaska] Supreme  Court  is  the  final                                                              
authority  for what  goes into  "this" particular  document.   The                                                              
extra information that  SB 172 would require [the  ACS] to provide                                                              
may  very possibly  be  put into  "this"  report;  in fact,  Chief                                                              
Justice  Fabe  assured  Senator  Donley several  months  ago  that                                                              
prior to  the time  the next annual  report went into  production,                                                              
she  would  discuss  with  her  colleagues  including  this  extra                                                              
information.    Alternatively,   the  extra  information  that  is                                                              
required by  SB 172 may  be put in  a separate report,  which [the                                                              
ACS] would publish and release as instructed per SB 172.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 1814                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. CHRISTENSEN  offered the following  as a technical  amendment:                                                              
Remove "annual"  from page 1, line  5.  In response  to questions,                                                              
he explained  that the term  "annual report" is  almost considered                                                              
a  term of  art, and  that  the ACS  already  produces an  "annual                                                              
report" and  has done  so for over  40 years.   And although  [the                                                              
ACS]  will be  happy  to give  the  legislature  whatever kind  of                                                              
reports  it  wants,   he  reiterated  that  [the   ACS]  currently                                                              
produces  its   document  under   the  [Alaska]  Supreme   Court's                                                              
constitutional  authority to administer  the judicial  branch, and                                                              
would  therefore   prefer  that   any  information   requested  by                                                              
legislature not  be called an "annual  report".  He said  that the                                                              
extra information  requested may be included in  the annual report                                                              
that the  ACS already produces,  or it may  come in the form  of a                                                              
separate report;  the intention of  his suggested amendment  is to                                                              
allow [the ACS] flexibility.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DONLEY  agreed that  the intention of  SB 172 is  to leave                                                              
the ACS with  flexibility regarding terminology,  and therefore he                                                              
has no objection to Mr. Christensen's suggested amendment.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 1900                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JAMES made a  motion to  adopt Amendment  1, which                                                              
would  remove "annual"  from  page  1, line  5.   There  being  no                                                              
objection, Amendment 1 was adopted.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 1929                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JAMES  moved to report  CSSB 172(FIN),  as amended,                                                              
out  of  committee   with  individual  recommendations   [and  the                                                              
accompanying fiscal note].                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 1939                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BERKOWITZ  objected for the purpose  of discussion.                                                              
He said that one  point he is always leery about  is separation of                                                              
powers.    He  acknowledged  that  the  [ACS]  did  not  have  any                                                              
objections  to  the  requirements  imposed  via  SB  172,  but  he                                                              
pointed out that:                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
         We're here telling the court to do something,                                                                          
     something that they're already doing.  ... I know that                                                                     
     when  the  court tells  us  to  do things,  even  simple                                                                   
     innocuous things  like maybe striking language  from the                                                                   
     budget or something,  we find that very troubling.   ...                                                                   
     I just  think we ought to  be a little bit  sensitive to                                                                   
     those poor five justices and all their minions.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JAMES  noted that the  legislature, via SB  172, is                                                              
not  telling [the  ACS] how  to make  judicial decisions;  rather,                                                              
the legislature is  only telling the ACS what  kind of information                                                              
to provide.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BERKOWITZ  countered by saying, "Which  is all they                                                              
told us."  He then withdrew his objection.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 1983                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ROKEBERG  asked whether there  were any further  objections.                                                              
There being  none, HCS CSSB 172(JUD)  was reported from  the House                                                              
Judiciary Standing Committee.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                

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